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of it in reaction to harry reid's dismal statement. i got an e-mail with it all in caps, the market is coming in on these headlines from harry reid. this matters, every word they say matters and white house press secretary jay carney was on the defense today. he pointed out as he had done yesterday that the president spoke on the phone with senate majority leader harry reid and john boehner over the weekend. and besides carney says, the president has to talk directly to the american people. >> it is vitally important that ordinary americans actively engage in this debate because the outcome of these negotiations and the hopeful product of these negotiations are the product that we hope emerges from these negotiations will profoundly affect their lives. >> so is the president, the missing ingredient to really nailing down a fiscal cliff deal? could he end the drama right now if he stayed put in washington and held a series of face-to-face meetings with reid, mcconnell, boehner, and pelosi instead of his planned meetings this week with small business owners, business leaders and middle class am
and majority leader reid will be recognized to speak and will likely outlined the schedule for the day which could include debate on defense programs and policy, and possibly legislation to do with equal rights, people with disabilities. centers will us from 12:30-2:15 eastern for weeks the party meetings. live coverage of the senate and members gavel in right here on c-span2. right now some debate from the floor of the senate yesterday between majority leader reid and republican leader mitch mcconnell. d, w they talkede about potentialit't changes to filibuster rules. here's some of what they had to say. >> i'd like to turn to anotheras issue that doesn't grab as manyt utadlines as these others we'veb been focus on the last few days o the mortal threat that has been quietly gathering against one of the most cherished safeguards of our government. i'm referring to the latest effort by some on the other side, most of whom have never served a day in the minority, to force a change in senate rules at the beginning of the new year that would fundamentally change the character of the senate. this
as leader reid and leader durbin mentioned, had a lot of things we didn't like. it had some things we liked, particularly making sure that no benefits in medicare, social security and medicaid were cut. but it's now time for congress to get back to our regularly-scheduled programming, and that means jobs. while washington has been consumed with averting a default, our nation's unemployment problem has been worsening. it's time for jobs to be moved back to the front burn wither. with this debt reduction package completed, the decks are now cleared for a single-minded focus on jobs in september. by removing the threat of default for the next 18 months and by proving that both parties can come together to get our deficits under control, we have provided certainly to the credit markets. the debt limit agreement largely resolves the budgets for the next two years, so the wrangling over spending should be greatly reduced in coming months. we now have the chance to pivot away from budget battles to jobs. we can reset the debate, and that's what we intend to do. the jobs issue won't have to play se
is joy ann reid, and ana marie cox, washington correspondent for the guardian. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> good to be here. >> ana marie, let me start with you. do republicans see the writing on the wall in this tax debate? >> i think they do. obviously some of them do. and i have to say, this is like a very weird place to kind of like stake your claim, like this is what you're going to commit political suicide over. there are actually other conservative ideals that i understand the philosophical principles behind and why you might go to the mat on this one. but this was -- as the president said, this was something that was decided by the election. this is not something that people were wishy-washy on. americans don't mind if you raise taxes on the very wealthy. not only do they not mind but they want this. i think it only makes sense for republicans to at least do what tom cole has said, which is to settle for this now and then if you want to have that fight later, if you want to make your debate points later, go ahead and do that. at this point, the memory so fresh with wh
reid on the floor of the senate only moments ago. listen to him. >> unfortunately there is one obstacle standing between you and congress to compromise, grover norquist. for years he has bullied lawmakers willing to put their oath of office or promise to serve constituents ahead of their pledge to this antitax zealot. his brand of ideological extremism has been bad for congress and even worse for the country. i was pleased to see republicans in congress distance themselves from norquist this week. i appreciate that very much. bill: here now to react. grover norquist, americans for tax reform. good morning to you. >> sure. bill: harry reid, what do you think about that? >> well, only senator harry reid of nevada could pack that many lies into something quite that short. look, the taxpayer protection pledge as harry reid well knows is a commitment by senators and congressmen to their constituents, not to me personally, reid tells that lie over and over again, a commitment to their constituents that when they come to washington they will reform government and spend less money, rather than
, they are not going to be mad of the him for long. joining me now is msnbc's joy reid. how are you? >> i'm doing well. >> so much as i think they will one day come to forgive chris christie, watch how his recent visit to "saturday night live" played with eric bowles. >> let's look at the republican acting like a democrat governor chris christie slobbering a wet kiss on president obama's cheek with days until the election. then this curious appearance on "saturday night live" while jersey still suffers from power outages and massive job losses. >> slobbering wet kiss. do you think i'm underestimating this? >> i think it will take longer to heal. your theory is sound as far as getting relelkted in new jersey. he did the right thing when it comes to remaining governor of new jersey. but i think that the idea that he can be forgiven enough by the base to run for president in 2016 presumes that republicans are going to basically do a punch the base strategy. because look, the part of the party that's about winning elections, the sort of wing that's the political wing, definitely is going to look to chris
votes and will reid be able to use get the 51 votes to get the reform. >> you're quite right people are angry. they're hurting and congress is not responding. one of the reasons why congress is not responding is we have republicans playing an extraordinary role in terms of obstructionism. filibuster an filibuster. i think you have folks who are working really hard on this issue. senators americaly udal and others. if we're going to do the people's business we can't get bogged down in filibusters and we need real reform there. >> eliot: as always it is a great joy to have vermont's independent senator bernie sanders on the show. thank you for joining us. >> thank you eliot. >> eliot: for more on impure thoughts and what it could mean, i'm joined by ken vogel. ken, thanks for joining us. >> great to be with you eliot. >> eliot: how does grover norquist put down this rebellion in his own party? what muscles does he flex? what power does he have? >> what he has is money, and he has a lot for it. his organization spent $16 million more than they had ever spent on expressed at very casscy
. mitch mccondition necessarily is going to have to be onboard. is this a perry blow with the harry reid? >> the democratics, if they change the rules, can do it with 51 votes, so he doesn't have to be onboard but look, they're not talking about stripping the minority of the right to filibuster. they're talking about instead of saying oh, i'm going to filibuster and everything comes to a stand still that you actually have a and up and filibuster, that people would have to take the floor and read the phone book. i don't see anything wrong with that. there are a couple of proposals out there nothing that significantly reduces the power of the filibuster, harry reid read has experienced 385 filibusters during his time at senate leader. lyndon johnson faced one filibuster. it is overused and abused, and so i think mcconnell better get over it. >> it seems like he's going to have to. it seems he's almost resigned to be in the minority for a very, very long time. that's the behavior and demeanor of someone who is going to be in the minority. we almost got through the fill buster without mentio
is sticking by her for now. she's not yet been nominated. harry reid said they believe the committees in charge chaired by john kerry should be in charge of this and not members from other committees like homeland security and intelligence and armed services who are getting involved in this. but as you pointed out, none of the republican senators asking questions chair anything. it's becoming very personal and very puzzling indeed. >> one last sort of puzzling hmt of this to me. i just want your perspective because you have reported on these issues for so long. it seems remarkable to me to have the acting director of the cia personally accompanying susan rice to that meeting today. this is not formal testimony. there was no committee of lindsey graham and john mccain. they don't run anything there. is it unusual to have the leader of the cia personally involved like this? >> it was remarkable to me. i described her on "nightly news" as her wing man. he was there to take the blame. and it did seem for an acting director of the cia to be put in that position rather extraordinary. he him
working on the defense authorization bill. harry reid has been talking about the brugget cuts and tax increases and here he is speaking to reporters just after the caucus lunch. it's about 10 minutes. >> we are -- we had a meeting with the four leaders up here at the white house, it went very well. the problem was that was before thanksgiving. and since that time, there has been little progress with the republic carns, which is a indictment -- republicans, which is a disappointment to me. we only have a couple of weeks to get something done. we have to get away from the happy talk and start talking about specific things. and one month taxes are set to rise for all americans. we passed in the -- we passed in the senate a piece of legislation to protect people making less than $250,000 a year. we have rejected on a bipartisan basis the republicans' efforts to extend the tax cuts for everybody. those are the two majors we have dealt with on the senate floor. if we fail to reach an agreement, the average middle-class family will see their taxes go up by 2,200 a year. as i have indicated,
. it started with harry reid appointing me to the simpson- bowles commission -- 18 members. i thought this was another commission who'd work product would be lost in history and on a dusty shelf or buried in some hard drive. it turned out to be a historic effort and a game changer -- mainly through the good work of erskine bowles and ellen simpson with hard work that was put into this by 18 members, evenly divided among house and senate democrats and republicans and six public members. 11 of us voted for the final work product. i was invited to join the gang of six to continue the conversation on simpson-bowles. it expanded to the gang of eight. the conversation has been going on for two years. that is a lot of popcorn in mark warner's office. it was a great education and effort to sit across the table from conservative senators and talk through not just the reality of the deficit but the political reality of the deficit, which we have to be more sensitive to if we are looking for an honest solution. some of my friends on the left came to visit. i recall one -- the labor leader who sa
john boehner and the senate majority leader harry reid over the weekend. and the president is confident they can work out some sort of agreement. mike emanuel on fox top story live in the d.c. newsroom tonight. mike, it looks like some republicans are changing their tunes. >> shep, republicans say they favor both major spending cuts and additional revenue from tax reform with lower tax rates. the pledge you mentioned is identified with americans for tax reforms grover norquist who has gotten many republicans to promise they won't vote to raise taxes. south carolina senator lindsey graham is pushing back saying capping deductions would help generate revenue. the top republic on the senate budget committee explained graham's position. >> he is conditioning any tax increase on fixing these programs, social security and medicare, particularly in making sure that they are sound for the future. so that's lindsey's position. and he has talked about accepting revenue to accomplish that goal. >> republicans continue saying they don't want to increase tax rates arguing that will hurt job growth.
and harry reid over the weekend about avoiding the fiscal cliff. the president will meet with small business owners today. tomorrow he meets with middle class americans who would be affected by tax hikes and more business leaders. friday he's going to travel to hatfield pennsylvania where he will give campaign style remarks to get support for congress to negotiate the right kind of deal. we are back with more steph after this. ♪ [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >> yahoo, it is the "stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 1-800-steph-1-2 toll free from everywhere. steven weber. he will be there nobody panic he will be right there. charlie pierce said some good stuff about the fiscal cliff and other things. this is going to be a fascinating discussion. the president playing three dimensional chess. told you so. >> never mind. >> never mind. >> corn? when did we book corn? [ laughter ] >> oh, you kids. i swear. all right, you know what? i think there's a little estrogen in the clubhouse. ♪ ♪ >> hi, jackie schechner. >> good morning
programs. it is something that was taken out of my paycheck. >> bill: thank you. >> caller: harry reid said they didn't contribute to the debt problem. these big tax breaks contributed to the debt problem, the two false wars created the deficit. we need to lock arms and walk up to the cliff and see what it is all about. >> bill: arnold you got it. alan in new bedford mass. >> caller: good morning, bill. i think there are two separate issues. the bush tax cuts were to expire in 2010. they were only extended was because of [ inaudible ]. period. >> bill: yeah, that was all over the debt ceiling negotiations. the president went along with it, but it's time to end them now. they are still making the argument that that is a job creator. no, it's not. no, it's not. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ >> announcer: chatting with you live at current.com/bill press. this is the "bill press show," live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: how about it coming to you live indeed. coming you live on cirrus xm this hour only and on current tv. republicans talking out b
-panthers, philadelphia. >> how about that monday-nighter? >> i know. i just continue to worry about andy reid because he looks so pathetic. >> yeah, it's been a very rough year for the eagles and their head coach andy reid. a lot of folks are calling for his head. this team lost six in a row, the most since before he took over. but while a lot of people want him fired right now, i think you have to look at the body of work, carol, for him. six division titles, he won an nfc championship game, winningest coach ever in philadelphia. and i think a little respect, too, for reid as a person who lost his son earlier in the season. you could make a change with this eagles' team, a lot of injuries, including michael vick. but a lot of people also believe that an interim coach in the middle of a year doesn't always translate into immediately turning things around. so i believe, like a lot of people, that reid will be gone, but it won't happen probably until the end of the year. >> vince chelani from bleacher report, thank you so much. >> don't forget, go to bleacherreport.com. carol, good to see you. >> i'm goin
that significantly reduces the power of the filibuster but harry reid has experienced 385 filibusters during his time. it is over -- overused and abused, so i think mcconnell better get over it. >> yeah, it seems like he is going to have to. he seems like he is resigned to be in the minority for a very very long time. we almost got through without mentioning mr. smith goes to washington, but i just blew it sorry. eleanor smith thank you so much. joe williams you'll stay with us, and we'll have a little bit of fun. coming from, the sports metaphors >>i jump out of my skin at people when i'm upset. >> why do we need a straw poll? i'll take a logical look at the situation. we're just getting started on a monday night. stick around. get irresistibly clean and fresh carpets in your home with resolve deep clean powder. the moist powder removes three times more dirt than vacuuming alone while neutralizing odors for a clean you can see, smell and really enjoy. don't just vacuum clean. resolve clean. right by those who gave their lives to for this country nearly 70 years ago. >> you'r
democrat harry reid says republicans are the ones dragging their heels. there's been little progress with the republicans, which is a disappointment to me. they've talked some happy talk about doing revenues, but we only have a couple weeks to get something done. >> reporter: republicans point out that medicare and medicaid are the largest future drivers of the debt. they say they won't agree to increased revenue from taxes unless they get entitlement cuts as well. scott, it's safe to say there are going to be people on the right and left howling mad at no matter what this deal looks like. >> pelley: nancy, thank you very much. one idea they're looking at is scaling back one of the most popular tax breaks of all: the mortgage deduction. dean reynolds will tell us more about this later in the broadcast. that crisis in egypt is growing tonight. more than 200,000 protesters have filled cairo's tahrir square. they are angry with their new president, mohamed morsi who said last week that his decisions cannot be challenged by the courts which gives him almost absolute power. and our holly
. they fall to 3-8 on the year. and after his team's seventh straight loss, coach andy reid said after the game, he's not spoken to the eagles' ownership about the future with the team. and you know what, mika? he might as well not. i don't think he's going to be back in philadelphia next year. >> more news from the nfl, lions' defensive tackle ndamukong suh won't be suspended for kicking texans' quarterback matt schaub in the groin during the lions' loss to the texans on thanksgiving day. >> you can tell, he hits the ground, it's just a twitch. >> who does that? oops. following an official review of the incident, the league rules that suh's actions didn't warrant suspension, but they're still considering whether to fine him. schaub told a houston radio station yesterday that he would never want to be suh's teammate saying quote, you don't want a player like that. the stuff he hands for and the type of player he is, that's not houston texan worthy. suh has been fined four times and suspended two games. >>> a big showdown in the tri-state area. the new york knicks traveled across the ea
. >> and wolf, just moments ago, the senate majority leader harry reid released a statement, very, very direct and pretty critical of those republican senators who were critical of susan rice. really defending susan rice, and he was talking about the republican senators saying the election is over. it's time to drop these partisan political games and focus on the real challenges facing the nation. he said that these attacks on susan rice are unfounded and they don't jive with reality. i can tell you that senator joe lieberman who is the chairman of the homeland security committee came out of a separate meeting with rice and said he he found her answers satisfying and he would vote for her for secretary of state if he was voting. >> thanks very much, dana bash. with that looming on capitol hill, the looming battle over the so-called fiscal cliff. >> there's a lot going on. a lot of battles going on. specifically on capitol hill, that's for sure. lawmakers have just 35 days to reach a debt reduction deal. otherwise, huge spending cuts and steep tax hikes will automatically take effect and affect
harry reid said social security should be completely off the table. let's watch the senate leader. >> i've told anyone that will listen, including everyone in the white house, including the president, that i am not going to be part of having social security as part of these talks. >> okay. the president is feeling the pressure to stick to his guns but how much room does he have to reach a compromise before the end of the year? and will the left support one if he does? most importantly, what is the risk to the country of not reaching a deal in the near future? jared bernstein, senior fellow at the senior of budget and policy priorities and an msnbc contributor, vice president of biden's chief economic adviser and joan walsh, editor-at-large of salon. i was trying to get the facts and understand it. the congressional budget office, nonpartisan says if we go off the cliff january 1st which means we let those taxes terminate, the tax rates to go back up again for everybody back up there where they were before this past president was here f we let those cuts go in definition and else places,
in congress to accept tax increases on the wealthy. joy reid is managing editor of thegrio.com. she's at least as smart as i am, which is not an accolade, it's a fact, and she's much younger. okay. we found out this weekend, and you know this better than i, i enjoy your report on this, the obama campaign wasn't some kumbaya number. it was an incredibly organized machine. it was real, it was people meeting people, getting points for how many contacts you made with voters. they knew a certain number of contacts led to a probability of people voting. incredibly hands-on, real people with other people. can you turn that machine into something that can get the right kind of deal? >> i think the president spent a year and a half developing a gigantic infrastructure that really came out on election day. and he did that -- >> human. >> through these kinds of direct contacts, but he also had an argument in the campaign that brought those people out. and central to that argument was that we need an economy that works for everyone, that people need to pay their fair share. >> so the key element of that,
're not going to stop the front four of anybody else. >> problematic. hey, with any luck, andy reid will be coaching the packers next year. >> or rex ryan. >> hey, we'll give you rex. you want rex ryan? >> we're happy with our coach. i would not want to be andy reid. >> no. >> he's going to san diego, barnicle tells me. >> he'd be on san diego next year. >> let's talk about what's in politico. you want to do that? >> love to. >> okay. so fiscal cliff is all the talk of washington, obviously. but you guys are writing this morning, your headline about the other fiscal fight, which is, again, the debt ceiling. >> yeah, i think people forget we have essentially three blink moments, sequestration, the debate, and we hit the debt limit probably some time in february. and you have to raise the debt limit unless you take the posture that some folks in the democratic party are recommending and saying just raise it unilaterally, have the president do that. i don't think that's what they want to do right now. in the past, congress has had to raise that debt limit. and as you know, house republ
in washington. the white house says the president did speak with speaker boehner and senator reid over the weekend to touch base on this very issue. as one republican aide put it to cnn, the fact that they are still talking is progress. but a democratic aide said they don't have staff had you hadling in a room going over spreadsheets which is where they need to get to hammer out a deal. what they're doing now is they're at the dancing stage of this negotiation. >> a lot of folks are saying it's not the republicans in the senate so much will be the problem for the obama administration, but republicans in the house of representatives, especially those from the tea party movement and others will be a serious problem. >> what was an important group of republicans during the debt ceiling debate while this election has changed the arithmet arithmet arithmetic, republicans in the house will be key to this negotiation. the two men that need to hammer out this deal, just like it was over the summer, is still president obama and spooeseaker boehner. >> i don't think there's any doubt the preside
, the senate majority leader harry reid the democrat over the weekend, perhaps to try to jump-start the talks. as of now, as the house of representatives comes back today, as the senate came back yesterday, we're still very much in limbo on the fiscal cliff. >> here's something else we know. some major republicans have come out and they say that they don't feel bound by the americans for tax reform pledge. most recently we saw house majority leader eric cantor. do you believe more republicans will stick by this? >> what we're finding out right now zoraida is that there's a little bit of coming to jesus moment about how to fix the fiscal cliff. for republicans perhaps it is going to be higher taxes. for democrats there's going to have to be some changes to entitlement reform. but grover norquist has been really the person pushing this no tax pledge, has been on our airwaves. he's been talking a lot about it. let's hear what he had to say about republicans who might break the pledge. >> no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. they've had some people discussing impure thoughts on national
welfare at the expense of none other than the middle class. for more, we go to joy reid, managing either of grio.com and jared bernstein. welcome to you both. >> nice to be here. >> earlier we asked you to come up with a figure, because you know i have -- like a dog with a bone on this. we asked you to come up with a figure how much corporate welfare per year is dolled out. what did you find out? >> from the tax policy center, nonpartisan, highly reliable group, $150 billion in tax expenditures that favor corporations in 2012. so, there's your number. >> now, if i'm not mistaken, the amount we actually spend on entitlements that we actually are entitled to because we pay into a system is about half of that? in terms of who's getting the better deal, corporate welfare seems like the better deal and if we're looking for cuts, maybe that's where we should start? >> i think the point is that in both of these cases it's absolutely nonsense, and i know you share this view, to write off all of the social programs as, you know, welfare that just layabouts are -- that 47%, clear nonsense. at the
will admit he or she is wrong. gee reid managing editor of the grio. joy, you first and john jump m in here. seems like if you look at the trial balloons for 2016 you see the two directions of the party. people like rubio, down in florida, who's talking about the seven days of creation again. and then on the other end of the world, you have chris christie talking about how many days it's going to take us to clean up this mess from sandy. once living in the secular real world, off in the ideological, world that the right likes to get into. joy, you're shaking your head. they haven't decided to go sky high into the ideology with the old testament or become a more modern party. >> i think you picked the right person to focus on. marco rubio, be seems to be at the crossroads. there's three wings of the republican party, the evangelical right, business wing of the party and then the sort of joe the plumber wing we call the tea party. they now all sort of rushed into the void created by the economic recession with the business wing deciding they wanted one of their own to be president, mitt romne
show any flexibility at all at curtailing medicare spending, period? harry reid has already said social security is off the table. we're not touching social security. that's not a story? no. it really wasn't. that was basically uncovered by the networks. but the debate now is entitlements and that is getting almost no attention. >> steve: in the meantime, you look at the stuff and it looks like the main stream media essentially acting as a negotiator on behalf of the white house. republicans need to cave. don't think of it that way. think of compromise because that at thend of the day, both parties will give up something. >> sure. and by the way, let me to be totally honest, republicans have already caved. they've already fallen for it, right? they've already been pushed into, you watched the sunday shows, attacking grover norquist, as if that's the point. it's not. so the press has cowed republicans to do their bidding and in effect, doing the white house's bidding. but again, the real story is going unanded and that is will harry reid and the democrats in the house, led by nancy pelos
. harry reid has said no, social security won't be part of these negotiations. it should not be part of the negotiations. but isn't the essence of the problem here which you pointed out, got your finger on a little earlier, in our conversation, that there was an election -- >> there was. i remember it. >> bill: they forgot it. they seem to have forgotten it. they put out all of these bad ideas, stale ideas dangerous ideas and they lost. >> this was really an election on those ideas. >> bill: exactly. >> romney made the case. you have a choice between going down my road or obama's road and the country supported obama's road as he said even if folks didn't vote for him chose his road in terms of increasing marginal tax rates on the richest americans getting more revenue. not turning medicare into a voucher system. ryan used to say when they first selected him let's have this medicare debate because this is a debate we can win. guess what, guys. you lost it and you can't have the policies you wanted now after you have.
and part of the gang. thank you for joining us. >> senate leaders spoke with reporters. harry reid said republicans are holding up a deal on the so- called fiscal cliff. republicans said they do not understand why democrats are looking to change the rules on filibusters. this is 20 minutes. >> we had a meeting with the four leaders up here at the white house, it went very well. the problem was that was before thanksgiving. and since that time, there has been little progress with the republicans, which is a disappointment to me. we only have a couple of weeks to get something done. we have to get away from the happy talk and start talking about specific things. and one month taxes are set to rise for all americans. we passed in the -- we passed in the senate a piece of legislation to protect people making less than $250,000 a year. we have rejected on a bipartisan basis the republicans' efforts to extend the tax cuts for everybody. those are the two majors we have dealt with on the senate floor. if we fail to reach an agreement, the average middle- class family will see their taxes go up
at omb, john boehner on the house side, and harry reid, senate majority leader, meds mcculloch -- mitch mcconnell, mayor daley there. paul ryan recently indicated he will be a major player in the talks. i think the important thing to notice is the rhetoric has softened quite a bit. certainly over last year when there was just can't other impasse. and in the initial days after the election there was some harding of the provisions but it has softened over the past week and indication there are movements spawned tax revenues and -- programs in an effort to have a deal. host: the topic is the sequestration side of the so- called fiscal cliff talks and there is a tweet that says -- guest: it is definitely not meaningless, the fiscal cliff. there is great meaning in what might happen with going over that cliff. and certainly there are major, major cuts to federal programs on the table that could have a widespread effect. host: and impact on jobs at the federal government? guest: absolutely. now, it may not impact jobs immediately. first of all, it will take some time for the sequester to go i
that's caused significant gridlock in the past, senate majority leader harry reid thinks a deal can be done by mid december, well ahead of the deadline. >> we have the cornerstone of being able to work something out. we're both going to have to give up some of the things that we to are a problem and so, it's like when we arrive at a point where we all know something has to be done. there's no more let's do it some other time. >> right now, there's some outside pressure on congressional negotiators to raise the 18.4 cent per gallon federal gasoline tax, something that's being pushed by state highway officials and road builders across america. casinos are also pushing to get language legalizing online poker into a deal and governors hit hard by superstorm sandy or wanting more if federal aid to come to them through a potential deal. whatever agreement it made to avoid the fiscal cliff, it's going to be worth a lot of money and now is the time that groups are stepping up to see if they can get in on some of that. >> all right, everyone wants a little piece of the action and everyone wa
administrator for the centers of medicare and medicaid services. joy reid, josh barro, dr. claudia fagin, and jacob hacker, professor at yale university. great conversation, thanks for getting up. >>> and a final thought on what i'm grateful for this thanksgiving up next. [ female announcer ] over every holiday season your mouth has been snacking, gift stacking, nutcracking and yellowing. because if you're not whitening, you're yellowing. crest whitestrips remove over 10 years of stains, just in time for a white holiday. crest 3d white whitestrips. starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. thrget 3 yearsgiving weekend, interest-free financing and save up to $600 on beautyrest and posturepedic. even get 3 years interest-free financing on serta icomfort and tempur-pedic. mattress price wars ends sunday at sleep train. . have. . >>> just a moment. what i'm grateful for this thanksgiving. a correction on som
, bill. that's what we've got to see from nancy pelosi, harry reid and the president. where is their proposal to actually fix the problem? because raising taxes is not going to fix the problem. we've always believed that raising taxes is going to be harmful to a small businessman or woman in creating a job, and, you know, i tell this story about a cook that i met in an airport. when he told me he came up and says,ase do something about the problem in washington, we need more jobs. he said i had to take a cook's position because i couldn't find a job that best met my skill set in the construction industry. i want to go and find that job to make the kind of money that i feel i'm worth, but if you raise taxes on the small businessman or woman who is creating that job that is creating less of a likelihood that you're going to create the job. bill: you have to dance now and you're trying to thread this needle the difference between raising tax revenues and tax rates, there is a distinction i get it. do your constituents get it? are they going to look at you and say, hey you guys
. and the president of the united states called mr. boehner and mr. reid over the weekend. it looks like the president is going to continue the push and meet with the ceo's tomorrow. they upon meet with irskin bowles. he was the co-chair of simpson-bowles commission . mr. bowles had a great plan. he is a democrat, that offered up 800 billion in new revenue and overhaul the tax system and changes to medicare and that's why the republicans are asking the democrats to come in and explain your deal. this plan was hatched in 2010 and everyone walked away from it and now they call bowles back up? it is late. this is what the american people are upset about. nothing gets done. >> steve: we are a month from the cliff. >> gretchen: we could have avoided the cliff if they used the plan as a starting point. americans are upset nothing gets done. >> brian: norquist is the bad guy. you should walk away from grover norquest. he said you have enough money on capitol hill and stop asking us . he's been a watch dog on our money so whether you are democrat or republican you should salute him. he warned you in the past
of each party in the senate. mitch mcconnell and harry reid. yesterday, at the two had a little dispute on the floor. they threatened filibuster change and he can to the floor to talk about that. the washington times says they had a rare head-to-head debate on the senate floor. take a look. [video clip] >> we believe that there should be one aspect of it changed and that most of the procedure be a -- simple as that. the american people agree. >> only ones who disagree think this is working well as the republican leader and the republicans in congress. >> up the majority leader will stay on the floor. you did not address that issue. >> but of course -- that statement is untrue and i do not accept that. >> that is the point. what the majority leader is saying is that he will break the rules in order to change the rules. it has been the case in the past that it took a supermajority of 67, which of course, meant most role changes occurred because they agreed to them. instead, what they are saying is that he will propose to change the rules with 51 votes meaning his side gets to decide what
'm a residence -- i supported the ambitious education reform in d.c. push by chancellor reid. they lack the community support necessary. i think a key take away from these election is stop focus on the men any and start shoring up allies especially parent and teacher. the governor mentioned this morning. that leads me to a second point. i believe the key lesson learned is the importance of political -- not just policy. reformers have been rightly focused on getting the politician and practices right. especially with implementing big reforms and common core teachers and principal evaluation system and increased school of choice. governor, you and i probably disagree here on choice. i think vouchers are something of a ration which concentrate on public school choice. regardless of the work to get it done, i think, you know, so you been a champion of charter schools in florida and across the country. we have a lot of work to do. you can't play the inside game without an outside game. this election taught us that passing a reform-minded law doesn't mean voters will support it a year or two
the table for these negotiations this year and that top senate democrat harry reid agreed with that. but republicans say that all entitlements, medicare, medicaid, and social security should be part of these negotiations, be part of this discussion. >> you've got to reform entitlement programs. it's got to be on the able. so far the president has beenen willing to lead on that issue. >> and as steve was saying, ceo's of major businesses will be at the white house today, goldman sachs, cater pillar, macy's and others, will be talking fiscal cliff with the president and a couple of those ceo's, in addition to others o'clock will head up to capitol hill to meet with republican leaders on the same topic. back to you in new york. >> gretchen: all right. thanks so much for that update. now to your other top stories. new video out of syria showing rebels shooting down military helicopter. watch this. [ cheering ] we heard that chant before, that's ala akbar, as the chopper plunges to the ground in a ball of flames. it's reportedly the first time the rebels shot down a helicopter with a sur
. >> do we have a reid war in the making. colorado and washington state voted on legalizing, and michelle malcolm. we'll ask her about that. >> a trap set for another animal, but it called a bald eagle instead. who finally came to the rescue of the symbol of our nation. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. [ man ] whoo-hoo! [ male announcer ] with reddi wip... that's so weird... [ whoosh! ] [ male announcer ] ...a slice of pie never sounded better. oh, yeah! [ male announcer ] that's because it's always made with real cream, never hydrogenated oil like some other whipped toppings. the sound of reddi wip... [ whoosh ] ...is the sound of joy. >> washington state and michelle's home state of colorado, well, they are the first states to legalize marijuana for recreational use and the colorado governor fam
is not for them and harry reid is not for the. at the state level -- you think taxing high income people does not affect growth? we are having an experiment. california. it is called maryland. i don't see any reason why we do not wait two years and see how california is doing with their new higher marginal tax rates on folks. and sales taxes on middle income people as well. illinois raising income taxes and sales taxes and maryland's -- a millionaire's tax for those -- they cannot leave because they are federal workers -- and those making a million dollars and walk across the border. they are testing obama's theories in the states. i think they should do it on a small state like vermont first and see how it works. but they wanted to california so we are doing california. texas and florida will give you an idea of how you can govern without an income tax -- not a 13% income-tax. people move. the kind of know what will happen -- indiana passed right to work, cutting taxes, giving half the kids in the state school choice, a voucher, a scholarship of $5,000. illinois just raise taxes so as not to
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